Does anybody know for sure that the triangle that held cannonballs on the deck (ready for use when needed) was I do not accept that the naval explanation is not feasible The evidence given by the naval museum only looks at the "off" factor, not at the quotation of Nick above that the balls were frozen "on" the monkey, not "off" it. --The assumption that a tray with the cannonballs would be useless while a ship was underway is correct. The phrase "cold enough to freeze the balls off (or on) a brass monkey" is a colloquial expression used by some English speakers. When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
The 'balls' part of the expression is an irrelevant later addition - the 'brass monkey' was (probably) a naval cannon. And then some muppet came along and spread a baseless story, forever stealing their thunder (which has another great etymology). 08-24-2011, 04:45 PM. The story goes that cannonballs used to be stored aboard ship in piles, on a brass frame or tray called a 'monkey'. )For thousands of years, these classic rhetorical techniques have been used to persuade people.They're still used by writers, marketers and politicians everywhere. OK!
This is not the same usage and there is no reason to suspect it is related to the colloquial expression thus it shouldn't be in this article. I probably should have done that first, before I told people about cannons and sailing ships.Yes, like the story about Spanish people lisping becauth thith ith what the king of thpain oneth did, it is founded on nothing that is factually verifiable.The term always related to actual brass monkey testicles. Nick mentions that brass would freeze under conditions, or rather cannon balls would likely freeze onto the brass. The "Monkey tail" was a short lever used for aiming the cannon. ozziemaland. These were schooners and similar craft, not ships of the line. So how did we manage to lose that crucial piece of information, and instead quote "Snopes" who don't know what a brass monkey is. They'd be "off" the cannon in the same way a child might be "off" his food. (And stay warm! The original ships carried one or two small cannon nothing more. The FAQ response continues to recite that tradition held that, not the brass monkey (which I always held to be true), but rather the cannon balls themselves contracted at a faster rate than brass, thus making it possible for the cannon balls to roll out of the "brass-monkey". This was made of brass but could hold various numbers of balls, depending on the build. Solid and inert, but what? ← Black Dog Newsletter November 7-13 “Brass Monkey Edition!” brass-monkey-cannonball-holder By Darren | Published November 7, 2017 | Full size is 200 × 160 pixels Cannon balls were made of iron and the classic brass monkey was made of brass, an alloy with a much-greater thermal expansion than iron. A monkey made of gunmetal is a brass monkey. It has often been claimed that the "brass monkey" was a holder or storage rack in which cannon balls (or shot) were stacked on a ship. When temperature falls, brass contracts in size faster than iron. I really find the layout of this article most peculiar. It gives validity to the opinion of an expert who knows, rather than quoting a source that say it doesn't know. The US navy may not have used these but there are other navies and merchant fleets around the world and the US Navy is not the world authority on all things maritime, especialy as they are a relativly new navy in terms of the worlds shipping history. This may sound very contradictory of me, having just rewritten this article from the point of view of the "experts" a linguist and a naval museum, but i have to ask the question. I question the premise. Brass was used because the cannonballs wouldn't rust to the "brass monkey", but would rust to an iron one. Etymology []. The balls for those guns had to be on the deck when needed. 4,900. that had balls on either end... hence the expression "cold enough to freese the balls off of a brass monkey" and the irony being that it sat in front of a fire place? is taken word for word from FD. but.. Thus the refutation by the U.S. Navy that these trays wouldn't be used is true only for ships under way, not in port. It's relevant to the Navy. It has been unusually brisk in Brisbane lately—it barely made 16 degrees today. A cannonball holder that was so precarious that the tiny relative change in dimensions due to thermal contraction would cause the balls to fall would also spill them at the slightest bump or tip. Some of them are insistent on showing their team T-shirts, no matter that it’s cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey.You’re probably familiar with it, and you’ve probably heard some nonsense about it relating to ships and cannonballs and some kind of cannonball holder called a ‘monkey’.
In answer to and earlier assertion that the balls may have been frozen On - the brass monkey I would point out that water expands when frozen. I was told these were "Brass Monkeys" made to hold 3 (not 4) cannonballs.
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